OK, I know I tend to be the only one that speaks to “other issues” mostly because ours are now out of school, BUT I do provide needed childcare for my son and DIL because they can’t afford a house and daycare (he’s a retailer, she a teacher in Robco). Yesterday, now I know it was a BUCKET load of rain, but this is what’s happening to our property in Sumner so stop the madness in Robertson if you can. We got so much rain in such a short amount of time, not unusual here, that we have it pouring out of their retaining ponds, not only are they not big enough, they aren’t deep enough either, and by killing off and removing all of the vegetation, this isn’t just a one time event.
Again, we have everyone’s waste (anything close to that flow) coming down the creek bed into Honey Run, flower pots, fence sections, large tree cuttings. Honey Run runs down along Tyree and passes in to these neighborhoods. We aren’t just destroying the creek bed, these builds have re-routed the water because it has NO WHERE to go because the ground can no longer handle what it was set up to do, since we moved in to this property in 2009. I have a drain at the top of the property that is maybe 24” square. We’d need one three times that size to even come close to keeping up.
In 16 years we really only had one issue, that was the 100 years we flood. Now we have BIG issues every hard rain, and disastrous effects on rain like yesterday. I’m a full lock away from these new builds, and every house and neighbor is dealing with the same exact issue. P.S. your retirees aren’t going to able to deal with the amount of money it will cost to fix these issues, so not only will they be forced to possibly find other homes, but the city will lose the value of having them living in the city where in a normal situation would offer a community base with skills, time for volunteering, and financial support. The same as having so many available at prices many can’t afford, that they go rental. Rentals are OK but not necessarily what’s going to pull communities forward. They aren’t always as deep seated in the community as one would hope.
These builds are ruining the entire road system in Meadowbrook, and along Tyree and it will need to be totally repaved, 7 roads now in Meadowbrook alone, and the current drains that are in place by the city since we were originally built in 2005 are incompetent to handle this amount of run off. Nikki I will send you a video just so you can see the madness. Over and over I’m told (we’re told) there’s nothing can be done because it’s not a city issue. What should’ve been done is we shouldn’t have permitted them to strip the land, and then start stacking houses in with HOA’s that don’t plant nor are they proactive, or reactive for that matter. It’s not rocket science.
I hope everyone around these new builds are looking at their own homes with a new perspective. These builders aren’t going to be looking down the road wondering if what they’re doing will have a negative effect on your property. They’re there to make money. Nothing else. When your teachers can’t afford what you’re selling, you don’t have far to look to see a problem coming.
Thanks for the news Nikki, I will forward to those I know up that way for sure. Appreciate you.
There is a story on Smoky Barn news about that right now. Corbitt is sending crew out to these developments to shut them down. The water is bad. And yes, you are correct, this is a mess.
I am fairly new to White House. We moved here 3 years ago and live part time in Florida. My question is, do they have impact fees here? If so, how much are the? If not why not? In Florida they have impact fees in some cities that amount to several thousand dollars for schools, fire protection police, etc. which the developer pays to build each house. Of course that is passed on to the home buyer in increased prices.
They tripled them in the city. They have small fees in the county. The problem is they are not enough to cover a new school, an ambulance, a fire truck, and the other infrastructure items that you need when you add 5000 units to a city.
So where can we find the current rules on what's allowed and what is required to change the rules for zoning? I'm curious about this. I know you can't just say no (as much as I'd like to) without having a reason or basis for it.
They like to use the comprehensive growth plan. However, they look at zoning in the area and like to see if the new zoning works with the surrounding area. In order to get the zoning changed they have to come before both the planning and then the commission to get approval. Zoning has to be changed in an ordinance in the city, not sure the rule it has to show up in in the county. Hope that was helpful.
I would think the lot would be locked into R30 rules no matter who built on it, unless it got changed again by the county. You'll see that Robertson has three designations for Residential, R40, R30 and R20. R40 is the most wide open and R20 is the most dense, so obviously R30 is in the middle. I don't have an opinion yet just from looking at tables, so it would be nice if we knew where to look at an existing R30 subdivision. I'm guessing most of the stuff that's currently being built in White House is R20, but maybe Nikki can clarify.
What's currently being built in White House are SRPUDs or PUDs. Those are planned urban developments. If you look at the homes on Luton Way, just across the street from this Clarion Homes, you will see R-30 and R-40. This map will help with the city. https://whitehousetn.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6dce583b95624645bcae0324e585549d It would be locked at R-30 but that does not mean they would be locked with individual septic. And the county allows for R-80. They have some of that in Cedar Hill.
OK, I know I tend to be the only one that speaks to “other issues” mostly because ours are now out of school, BUT I do provide needed childcare for my son and DIL because they can’t afford a house and daycare (he’s a retailer, she a teacher in Robco). Yesterday, now I know it was a BUCKET load of rain, but this is what’s happening to our property in Sumner so stop the madness in Robertson if you can. We got so much rain in such a short amount of time, not unusual here, that we have it pouring out of their retaining ponds, not only are they not big enough, they aren’t deep enough either, and by killing off and removing all of the vegetation, this isn’t just a one time event.
Again, we have everyone’s waste (anything close to that flow) coming down the creek bed into Honey Run, flower pots, fence sections, large tree cuttings. Honey Run runs down along Tyree and passes in to these neighborhoods. We aren’t just destroying the creek bed, these builds have re-routed the water because it has NO WHERE to go because the ground can no longer handle what it was set up to do, since we moved in to this property in 2009. I have a drain at the top of the property that is maybe 24” square. We’d need one three times that size to even come close to keeping up.
In 16 years we really only had one issue, that was the 100 years we flood. Now we have BIG issues every hard rain, and disastrous effects on rain like yesterday. I’m a full lock away from these new builds, and every house and neighbor is dealing with the same exact issue. P.S. your retirees aren’t going to able to deal with the amount of money it will cost to fix these issues, so not only will they be forced to possibly find other homes, but the city will lose the value of having them living in the city where in a normal situation would offer a community base with skills, time for volunteering, and financial support. The same as having so many available at prices many can’t afford, that they go rental. Rentals are OK but not necessarily what’s going to pull communities forward. They aren’t always as deep seated in the community as one would hope.
These builds are ruining the entire road system in Meadowbrook, and along Tyree and it will need to be totally repaved, 7 roads now in Meadowbrook alone, and the current drains that are in place by the city since we were originally built in 2005 are incompetent to handle this amount of run off. Nikki I will send you a video just so you can see the madness. Over and over I’m told (we’re told) there’s nothing can be done because it’s not a city issue. What should’ve been done is we shouldn’t have permitted them to strip the land, and then start stacking houses in with HOA’s that don’t plant nor are they proactive, or reactive for that matter. It’s not rocket science.
I hope everyone around these new builds are looking at their own homes with a new perspective. These builders aren’t going to be looking down the road wondering if what they’re doing will have a negative effect on your property. They’re there to make money. Nothing else. When your teachers can’t afford what you’re selling, you don’t have far to look to see a problem coming.
Thanks for the news Nikki, I will forward to those I know up that way for sure. Appreciate you.
There is a story on Smoky Barn news about that right now. Corbitt is sending crew out to these developments to shut them down. The water is bad. And yes, you are correct, this is a mess.
I am fairly new to White House. We moved here 3 years ago and live part time in Florida. My question is, do they have impact fees here? If so, how much are the? If not why not? In Florida they have impact fees in some cities that amount to several thousand dollars for schools, fire protection police, etc. which the developer pays to build each house. Of course that is passed on to the home buyer in increased prices.
They tripled them in the city. They have small fees in the county. The problem is they are not enough to cover a new school, an ambulance, a fire truck, and the other infrastructure items that you need when you add 5000 units to a city.
So where can we find the current rules on what's allowed and what is required to change the rules for zoning? I'm curious about this. I know you can't just say no (as much as I'd like to) without having a reason or basis for it.
They like to use the comprehensive growth plan. However, they look at zoning in the area and like to see if the new zoning works with the surrounding area. In order to get the zoning changed they have to come before both the planning and then the commission to get approval. Zoning has to be changed in an ordinance in the city, not sure the rule it has to show up in in the county. Hope that was helpful.
P.S., Article 6 seems to have the most useful info.
Craig, I have similar questions and found this link that you might find useful:
https://www.robertsoncountytn.gov/departments/planning/subdivision_regulations_2.php#outer-122
I would think the lot would be locked into R30 rules no matter who built on it, unless it got changed again by the county. You'll see that Robertson has three designations for Residential, R40, R30 and R20. R40 is the most wide open and R20 is the most dense, so obviously R30 is in the middle. I don't have an opinion yet just from looking at tables, so it would be nice if we knew where to look at an existing R30 subdivision. I'm guessing most of the stuff that's currently being built in White House is R20, but maybe Nikki can clarify.
What's currently being built in White House are SRPUDs or PUDs. Those are planned urban developments. If you look at the homes on Luton Way, just across the street from this Clarion Homes, you will see R-30 and R-40. This map will help with the city. https://whitehousetn.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6dce583b95624645bcae0324e585549d It would be locked at R-30 but that does not mean they would be locked with individual septic. And the county allows for R-80. They have some of that in Cedar Hill.